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What is the Truth about American Muslims

What is the Truth about American Muslims

The First Amendment Center, the Muslim Brotherhood and assorted leftists at the Interfaith Alliance have produced a polished piece of apologist propaganda for Islam. It has been getting a lot media play, because it says all the things the public would like to believe about Islam. It is a textbook summary of arguments made by Islam’s apologists and serves as a teaching example of how to refute this propaganda using the scientific method.

Here is the truth about Muslims. They will not tell you the whole truth, but only a half truth. Islam is inherently dualistic and holds two opposing truths at the same time. There are two Korans, an early Koran written in Mecca and a later Koran written in Medina. There is no jihad in the early Meccan Koran, but the later Medinan Koran is filled with jihad. So which is the real Islam? Both peace and war are true Islam. A Muslim will only talk about the half he needs. But, there is one Muslim who will tell you the complete truth—Mohammed. Needless to say, this propaganda does not consult him.

Here is the second part of the analysis:

9. How do American Muslims participate in American public life?

American Muslims have created institutions of their own in the United States, just like other religious communities. There are many long-established groups such as the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an umbrella organization of some 300 mosques and Islamic centers based in Indiana, and newer organizations like the Council for the Advancement of Muslim Professionals.

“Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)”

Whoa! ISNA is participation in American life? ISNA is pure Muslim Brotherhood; in fact, they are at the top of the list in the Muslim Brotherhood memo submitted in the Holy Land Foundation trial. And what is the Muslim Brotherhood? An organization dedicated to bringing the caliphate to rule over the entire world and to destroy our Constitution by replacing it with Sharia law.

And remember the Muslim Brotherhood motto? Here it is:

“Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

ISNA and all other Muslim Brotherhood types participate in American life in the sense of working to annihilate it.

10. Is Islam a political movement?

No. Islam is a religious tradition and adherents to Islam are called Muslim. Of course, American Muslims like Americans from other religious groups, participate in American political life. American Muslim voting patterns generally mirror the broader American population. American Muslims are Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, liberals, and conservatives. There is no one political platform or agenda for those who practice the religion of Islam in the United States.

“Islam is a religious tradition”

Yes, but it is also a political tradition. To prove that read the Sira, the biography of Mohammed. It is very interesting to plot the data found in the Sira about how Islam grew. Here is the plot:

The religion of Islam was a failure. In preaching the religion of Islam, Mohammed converted 150 Arabs to Islam. Then he went to Medina and became a politician and a jihadist. During the last 9 years of his life in Medina, he averaged an event of violence on the average of every 6 weeks. When Mohammed died every Arab was a Muslim. Without politics and jihad there would have never been an Islam. The religion failed, the politics succeeded.

11. Have American Muslim leaders spoken out against extremist violence?

Yes. Many American Muslim leaders and organizations have repeatedly denounced extremist violence in the strongest possible terms.

Of the many statements and actions taken by American Muslims to condemn and counter terrorism, the fatwa (religious ruling) from the Fiqh Council of North America (an Islamic juristic body) captures the views of the vast majority of American Muslims: “Islam strictly condemns religious extremism and the use of violence against innocent lives. There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism.”

Fiqh Council of North America condems violence, but Islam does not condemn jihad. Jihad is neither extremism nor terrorism. The Fiqh Council of North America (a Muslim Brotherhood group) may condemn terrorism, but Allah does not.

8:12 God revealed His will to the angels, saying: ‘I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the Kafirs. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers!’

“innocent lives”

As you read about innocence, remember that a Kafir is in perpetual rebellion against Islam. Hence, Kafirs are never innocent, but guilty of offending Allah.

The Fiqh Council of North America’s statement affirms the following Islamic principles:

“All acts of terrorism, including those targeting the life and property of civilians, whether perpetrated by suicidal or any other form of attacks, are haram (forbidden) in Islam.

“All acts of terrorism…are haram”

Well, so acts of terror are forbidden in Islam. But jihad is a community obligation for all Muslims. Jihad is not terror, but sacred violence to prepare the world for Islam and the Sharia.

Koran 2:216 You are commanded to fight although you dislike it. You may hate something that is good for you, and love something that is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not.

“It is haram (forbidden) for a Muslim to cooperate with any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or prohibited violence.”

I guess that Mohammed did not get this memo, because he said, just the opposite:

[Bukhari 4,52,96] Mohammed: “Anyone who arms a jihadist is rewarded just as a fighter would be; anyone who gives proper care to a holy warrior’s dependents is rewarded just as a fighter would be.”

“It is the civic and religious duty of Muslims to undertake full measures to protect the lives of all civilians, and ensure the security and well-being of fellow citizens.”

Muslims are to undertake full measures to follow the Sunna of Mohammed and he attacked every single neighbor, without a single exception. And he did it year after year, until he ran out of enemies in Arabia and then he left Arabia to go to Syria and attack the Christians there.

12. Are American Muslims concerned about extremist violence in the United States?

Yes. Most American Muslims, like most other Americans, are deeply concerned about the problem of extremist violence committed in the name of Islam. According to the most reliable data we have, the overwhelming majority of American Muslims is well integrated into American society and report criminal activity. Over the past decade, 40% of domestic terrorism plots have been uncovered or deterred with assistance from American Muslims.[iii]

“40% of domestic terrorism plots have been uncovered or deterred with assistance from American Muslims”

Since 100% of the domestic jihad has been by Muslims, what can be said about the other 60%? What Muslims did not turn them in?

13. Do American Muslim leaders support freedom of expression and religious liberty?

“support freedom of expression and religious liberty”

Really? Then why do the Muslim Brotherhood organizations demand that only Muslims be allowed to talk about Islam to government officials? That is freedom of expression? Under pressure of Islamic leaders, no US agency can listen to a lecture about Islam if it is given by Kafirs, courtesy of Obama.

Yes. Many American Muslim leaders, educational institutions, and advocacy groups have repeatedly spoken out for freedom of expression and are actively involved in promoting religious liberty for all people both in the United States and abroad.

“promoting religious liberty for all people both in the United States and abroad”

The Center for the Study of Political Islam publishes a monthly newsletter called the Bulletin of Christian Persecution. It documents the murder, rape, kidnapping of Christians in Muslim nations. Thousands of Christians, Buddhists, and Hindus die each year at the hands of Muslims. This persecution was started 1400 years ago by Mohammed and sanctioned by Allah. Here is the liberty promised by Allah:

Koran 9:29 Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given [Christians] as believe in neither Allah nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what Allah and His apostles have forbidden [follow Sharia], and do not embrace Islam, until they pay the dhimmi tax out of hand and are utterly humiliated.

Allah’s liberty for Christians includes murder until the survivors agree to live by the Sharia, pay special taxes and are humiliated.

Misunderstood terms and practices

14. What does “jihad” mean? Isn’t it a “holy war?”

“Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word: The “Greater Jihad,” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s heart, do good, avoid evil, and make oneself a better person. The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good. Bearing, delivering, and raising a child, for example, is an example of outward jihad, because of the many obstacles that must be overcome to deliver and raise the child successfully. Jihad may also involve fighting against oppressors and aggressors who commit injustice. It is not “holy war” in the way a crusade would be considered a holy war, and while Islam allows and even encourages proselytizing, it forbids forced conversion. In Islamic tradition, the form of jihad that involves fighting requires specific ethical conditions under which it is permissible to fight, as well as clear rules of engagement such as the requirement to protect non-combatants. Scholars have likened Jihad as fighting to the Christian concept of “just war.”

“The “Greater Jihad,” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s heart, do good, avoid evil, and make oneself a better person. The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle.”

Let us measure the truth of this statement. The Hadith are the Traditions of Mohammed and are part of the Sunna. The Koran says 91 times that Mohammed is the perfect Muslim and every Muslim is to model their life after him. The prime text for Hadith is by Bukhari. If you count the number of hadiths devoted to jihad, they account for 21% of the total, roughly 1400 traditions about jihad. If you go through these hadiths, less than 2% of them are about the greater jihad. That means that 98% of them are about the lesser jihad of killing Kafirs.

That means that the greater jihad is statistically insignificant. Jihad is about the annihilation of Kafirs, said another way, “an outward struggle”.

“it forbids forced conversion”

This implies that there is some sort of “convert or die” situation with Islam. But Islam has always been about death and other religions. For instance according to Sharia law and the Koran, a Muslim is not supposed to kill another Muslim. Not so with Kafirs. Mohammed killed Kafirs repeatedly. First he started killing and robbing pagans. Then he started killing Jews. Next he attacked the Christians. So it may not be convert or die, but it is “convert and you won’t die”.

When Mohammed died Abu Bakr, his closest Companion, became caliph. His first order of business was to go to war against all Arabs who wanted to leave Islam, the Apostasy war. Apostasy is a capital crime in the Sharia. Leave Islam and you can die.

The variety of interpretations of Lesser
Jihad or just war over 1400 years in many settings is a complex discussion.

Much of the contemporary misuse of the term “jihad” may be dated to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, when stateless actors began to claim the right to declare jihad. In Islamic tradition, there is no theological or political basis for this claim. Radical and extremist groups appropriate and misuse the term “jihad” to give a religious veneer to their violent political movements and tactics.

“Jihad or just war over 1400 years in many settings is a complex discussion.”

Actually, the results of jihad over the last 1400 years are very simple. Look at the Tears of Jihad, the totals of different social groups who were murdered.Tears of Jihad
Africans 120
Hindus 80
Christians 60
Buddhists 10
Total 270

Jihad is not a fringe doctrine with a verse or two. Islam has 3 sacred texts—Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (Traditions). Look at how much of them are about jihad.

The reason that there is so much material about jihad in the later Koran is that it was responsible for the success of Islam.

Another part of the discussion about jihad is that the Koran and the Sharia demand that part of the obligatory Muslim tax, the zakat, must go to those fighting in Allah’s cause, jihad. Jihad has a budget in the Koran and the Sharia.

16. Are Muslim men allowed to marry four wives?

While the Qur’an sanctions marriage to up to four wives (Q 4:3), the wording of the verse is understood by some Muslim scholars to allow but at the same time discourage marrying more than one wife. Verse 4:3 says that a Muslim man may marry up to four wives if he can treat them equally. Since men cannot treat any two people equally, the practice which was historically acceptable during times of crisis, like war, is now even outlawed in some Muslim majority nations.

The short answer is yes. Yes, according to the Koran. Yes, according to the Sharia. So that means that it is sacred law and when enough Islamists come to power in a country, polygamy will return. What the Sharia allows is the Pole Star that Islam will revolve around.

From the Sharia: m6.10 It is unlawful for a free man to marry more than four women. It is fitter to confine oneself to just one.

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The Quran Says that People of Other Religions are to be Violently Punished in This World

The Quran Says that People of Other Religions are to be Violently Punished in This World

Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Quran is devoted to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)
Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73)

Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:

…He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33:34)
All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:
And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)
Those who resist Islam will be humiliated:
Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be among those most humiliated. (58:20 – The context for this verse is the eviction of the Jewish tribes of Medina and the confiscation of their wealth, land, and children by Muhammad).
Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah:
And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah… (8:39 – “Persecution” in this context means resistance to Islam – defined in the prior verse as an unwillingness to believe (see verse 38). This passage was “revealed” following a battle that Muhammad deliberately provoked. Verse 2:193 essentially says the same thing and was also “revealed” at a time when the Muslims were not under physical attack).
Those with “diseased hearts” – which include Christians and Jews according to 5:52 – are to be “seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter” (33:60-62) along with “hypocrites” (Muslims who are judged not to be true believers by their associations with unbelievers or their unwillingness to engage in Jihad).

Non-Muslims are to be encroached on and pressured by the Muslims:

See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? (13:41 – See also 21:44)
And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things. (33:27, See also Bukhari 53:392)

Allah will grant Muslims authority and power over all other people:

Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion… (24:55)
(Muhammad’s companions continued to self-fulfill this prophecy with an aggressive and senseless military expansion that left a trail of bodies from Spain to India).

Allah provides instructions to Muslims for dealing with unbelievers who are unwilling to accept Islamic rule:

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (8:12-13)
Defeating non-Muslims should be easy for true believers because they are superior in intelligence and understanding:
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence (8:65)

Other verses of violence may be found here:

Remember that the Quran says that not all men are equal in Islam. This also applies to Muslims themselves with regard to their aggressiveness toward unbelievers. Those who kill or are killed on behalf of Islam are more pleasing to Allah:
Not equal are those of the believers who sit at home… and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives” (4:95)

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/008.qmt.html#008.060

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    Understanding Islam, mohammad and angelic behaviors of peace

    JANUARY 10, 2011 · 12:15 AM
    “American vs Muslim: Is there a clash of Identity” by Sheikh Yasir Qadhi
     Sheikh Yasir Qadhi answers the mind troubling questions of American Muslim Identity: Can you be a Muslim and be an American at the same time? Is there a clash? Is it permissible for a Muslim to have his/her allegiance to a nation-state. What are you first? An American or a Muslim?

    Do Muslims have to live in a Islamic State? Can Muslims live in a Kufr State (non-Islamic or non-Muslim State), use the kufr system to defend themselves in the Kufr State? What is the difference between the concept of Ummah andQaumiyat (nation or community)?

    Muslims residing in the Non-Muslim nation-state, can they be patriotic to their country? Is America a Christian State? What American Muslims should say if some one asks them that why are they in America?

    Can American Muslims be loyal to America? Is there a clash of loyalty between Islam and America? Can American Muslims be proud Muslims and patriotic Americans at the same time? And is this permissible in Islam?

    This video is beneficial for everyone- Muslims and not Muslims, Americans and not Americans, American Muslims and General Americans, Islamists, Nationalist and what ever “ists” you call yourself.

    This video addresses the very important issue out in Public just like the Ulema (Islamic Religious Scholars) in early 1900′s did in South Asia. Indian Ulema went through these kinds of debates, discussion and discourses about being Muslims in the newly found concept of Nation-state.

    Disagreement among the Indian Ulema resulted in mainly two groups. 1st group of Ulema supported the unified Indian, where Maulana Abul Hasan Ali Nadwiand Abul Kalam Azad were at the forefront. 2nd group of Ulema supported the Pakistan Movement, where Maulana Shabbir Ahmed Usmani, Students of Mawlana Ashraf Ali Thanwi are famous names from famous Islamic SeminaryDarululoom Deoband, while Mawlana Mawdudi supported Pakistan Movement with caution towards the Muslim League.

    Many other groups and movements in Pakistan and Middle East then sprang up around 1950′s that propagated skewed and unorthodox concepts about Shariahand Islamic State, those ideas have affected the thinking of Western Muslims and the Easterners since then.

    This is a very good sign the Sheikh Yasir Qadhi came out in public and spoke intellectually on a topic that has been in long discussion for past half century and a very hot topic in online forums.

    21 Responses to “American vs Muslim: Is there a clash of Identity” by Sheikh Yasir Qadhi

    1. Paul Marcel-Rene
      February 3, 2011 at 6:33 AM
      No, compliance with the true understanding of Islam is completely incompatible with being a good citizen or resident of America or the “western world”. Shariah Law is completely incompatible with being a good citizen or resident of America or the “western world”

      Introduction: Tenets of Shariah Law

      Shariah-Islamic Law is a military political doctrine written 1,200 years ago by Islamic authorities. The believers of Shariah-Islamic Law have created a movement like Apartheid in which a minority oppresses a majority.

      The goal of authoritative Shariah-Islamic Law is to establish a one-world militant political Islam through Jihad. There are three forms of Jihad: Violent, Cultural, and Financial.

      Shariah is not a religion. It was created centuries after the written Koran, Islam’s holy book. Just because a person is Muslim and therefore follows the Islamic faith, it does not necessarily mean he or she supports or chooses to live under Shariah. Many Muslims are brutally oppressed under Shariah-Islamic Law.

      Today, Shariah is the law of the land in Iran, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and parts of Nigeria and Indonesia. It is the ultimate authority among the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hizbullah.

      There is NO freedom of religion, equal rights, children’s rights or freedom of speech under Shariah-Islamic Law. Criticism of Islam or leaving the faith of Islam is a crime punishable by death. Forced child marriages, the beating of disobedient wives, public hanging of gays, and persecution of those who do not believe in Islam (Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, others) are tenets of Shariah law.

      Tenets of Shariah-Islamic Law (From Reliance of The Traveler: The Classic Manual of Sacred Law, the authoritative Sha’afi school compendium of shari’a jurisprudence.)

      Sharia on family law:

      * Women are eligible for only half of the inheritance of men
      * Virgins may be married against their will by a father or grandfather
      * Arab women may not marry non-Arab men
      * Women may not leave the house without a husband’s permission
      * Muslim men may marry 4 women, including Christians and Jews; Muslim women may marry Muslims
      * Men may beat insubordinate wives

      Sharia on Jihad and religion:

      * Offensive war (military Jihad) against non-Muslims is a religious obligation
      * Apostasy from Islam is punishable by death without trial
      * Non-Muslims ruled by Islam must follow including discriminatory “dhimmi” taxes and laws.
      * Non-Muslims may not receive Muslim charity “zakat”, but may be bribed to convert to Islam but
      * Lying to infidels during Jihad, or to promote Islam, is permissible

      Sharia on human rights:

      * Homosexuals and lesbians must be killed
      * Slavery is permitted and legitimate
      * Muslim men have unlimited sexual rights over slave women, even married slaves
      * Female sexual mutilation (cliterectomy) is obligatory
      * Adultery is punished with death by stoning
      * Women’s testimony in court is worth half that of men (and is permitted only in property cases)
      * Non-Muslims may not testify in Shariah courts.

      CREEPING SHARIAH-ISLAMIC LAW

      The Shariah Supremacy movement does not have the goal of hacking off limbs and stoning women in the West. The goal of the Shariah political movement is to have political Islam become an important component of Western life, bringing with it: Shariah courts to maintain patriarchal power in the family structure, censorship of speech and press to eliminate “racism and discrimination” against Islam; control of western economies through investment by dictating “un-Islamic” and “Islamic” industries, and elevating the political importance of Islam far above any other religion.

      umersultan
    2. February 3, 2011 at 2:46 PM
      First, thank you for teaching me about my religion.

      Second, I have nothing to say because everything that you have said has no foundation in Islam.
      You said: “There are three forms of Jihad: Violent, Cultural, and Financial.” You have no evidence of such uninformed statement & I don’t want to go on like this.

      Please check other posts regarding Shariahhttp://umersultan.wordpress.com/tag/sharia/

      Especially this: http://dawudwalid.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/what-is-shariah/

      What you need to do is get yourself educated about Islam from authentic sources rather than the Islamophobes!

      Reply
    3. Paul Marcel-Rene
      February 3, 2011 at 9:32 PM
      @umersultan There is no error in what was posted. All of it is completely accurate and comes directly from accepted authentic Islamic scholars, just not from Islamic Apologists that are obeying their religion through Taqiyya. When Osama bin Laden says Islam will dominate the world and that all is justified by the Qu’ran, Hadith, Sunnah/Sunnat and Islamic Apologists say Islam is a religion of peace, it is bin Laden who is being truthful.

      And before you find it necessary to start quoting the Qu’ran about its peaceful Suras, they are subject to abrogation.

      It is because Christians, and many Muslims, do not understand this doctrine of abrogation coupled with the nonchronological order of the Quran that they do not understand what is going on in the Islamic world at this time. On the one hand, many Islamic leaders will claim that their religion is a peaceful one, and quote passages from the Quran to prove it. On the other hand, other Islamic leaders will call for terrorism and jihad and base their call on the same Quran. Most of us would view this a simple matter of how the Quran is interpreted, but such is not the case. The peaceful passages within the Quran are found in the early days of Muhammad’s recitations, during a time when he felt that his new religion would be a unifying factor among “People of the Book” (Jews, Christians and Muslims). When his doctrine was ultimately rejected by Jews and Christians he turned on them and “was given” new “revelations” of war and hate to replace the former ones of peace. The surahs, which teach jihad against Jews, Christians and unbelievers, are all found in the later time frame of the Quran. Passages of a later date include 2:190-193,216; 4:74,89,91,95,101-102; 5:33,51; 8:12,39,60,65,67,69; 9:5,29,30,73; 47:4; 59:2-4,5,14 and 61:4. While such passages are scattered throughout the Quran, they are all chronologically of later origin and have, according to the doctrine of abrogation, replaced the former teachings on peace.

      • umersultan
        February 3, 2011 at 10:39 PM
        Bin Laden is not a Islamic Scholar, your statement tells me much about you.

        May God Guide you!

        umersultan
      • February 3, 2011 at 10:44 PM
        I understand well about what Abrogation is but it is certainly not the way you have understood.

        If you are interested to have a basic understanding of this topic read this:

        “Ulum Al-Quran: An Introduction to the Sciences of the Quran” by Ahmad Von Denffer

    4. Paul Marcel-Rene
      February 3, 2011 at 10:51 PM
      No bin Laden is not a scholar at all. Nor did I imply he is. Rather when he states “Islam will dominate the world and that all is justified by the Qu’ran, Hadith, Sunnah/Sunnat ” he is correctly stating the correct understanding of Islam.

      I have a correct understanding of Abrogation, but will attempt to find a copy of the book you recommend to determine its accuracy on this subject.

      Are you aware of any online links for a free copy? I doubt my local library would have a copy.

      • umersultan
        February 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM
        I read this book from the Local Library, you should be able to get it through WorldCat Library Loan.

        Christians believes in Christianity Dominating the world too!

        I don’t see the problem with the word “Domination.” If people want to believe in something without compulsion then what is the problem.

        As far as Abrogation is concerned it is not based on the time line of the verse. It is based on the occasion the verse is revealed. Islam is not based on the last revealed verses! Each verse was revealed on a specific occasion and it has to be interpreted keeping that in mind and thus it is the job of the people who have dedicated their lives to Islam.

        Bin Laden can use the verses as he wish, he will be answerable to God just like every other human being will be. Just like Christian Terrorist may bomb the Abortion Clinics and target and kill the Doctors by justifying their act from the Holy Bible, but at the end they will be answerable to God. Jesus & Muhammad, peace be upon them, are free from the insanity of these Nuts.

        • Paul Marcel-Rene
          February 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM
          No, Christians do not believe in Christianity dominating the world. In fact, it is is the opposite. Christians believe there will be opposition and false doctrines of the adversary throughout the world until the second coming of the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

          And, contrary to the Sura that states there is no compulsion in religion, that Mohammad replaced through abrogation, Islam does compel.

          We both know the Suras and Hadith that specifically tells to subjugate all who do not accept Islam, kill those who fight this subjugation, that all who apostatize and speak out against Islam are to be killed, etc etc.

          But, you are correct, those nuts that bomb abortion clinics as well as those who do the abortions, will face the judgment of God. All who kill will.

          There is a big difference though. These abortion terrorists are in complete contradiction of the Christian Bible. The Islamic terrorists are in fact complying with the teachings of the Qu’ran and Mohammad. Both will come before God and Jesus to be judged.

        • umersultan
          February 5, 2011 at 1:49 PM
          See this is what you say but these Christian Terrorists who bomb Abortion clinics do it based on Bible and so did the KKK lynched every Black man and woman, burned their churches down in the name of Bible.

          Please don’t teach me about the world history, I have studied. No one can turn the face by saying the massacre of Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem was not committed by Crusaders in the name of Christ. What British and other European Colonialist did to the world under the name of “White Man’s Burden” was all in the name of Christ.

          The difference is, Muslims in general understand the difference between what Jesus peace be upon him taught and the Christians who have committed crimes against Humanity. No one can deny the Inquisition was not done in the name of Christ, forcible converting Jews and Muslims, or expelling or killing them in Spanish, while the Muslim Spain encouraged the Christians and Jewish scholars to come contribute to Al-Andulus. Ever heard of Maimonide? You might want to read into his life.

          Christians started believing in “Christianity dominating the world” since Christianity became the official religion of Rome by Constantine. Christian Missionaries accompanied all the Colonialist to “civilize” the savages of the Africa, Asia, Latin America, “New World” called North America, China, South-East Asia. The difference is we Muslims don’t go about targetting and associating lies to Jesus Christ for crimes committed by the Christians.

          Make sure you go through the links I posted. In time, God-Willing you may realize that the world is very different from what you have come to know!
          May God guide us all, Ameen.

    5. Zayn
      February 4, 2011 at 8:33 PM
      People have grossly taken the ayahs’ meaning out of content. I suggest you do not just quote verses without reading the surrounding verses. Context clues seem to disappear when people interpret the Quran.

      Everyone will be judged according to intentions, whether they be Muslim or Christian or Jew. No one has the right to judge another, or to criticize beliefs without any factual evidence.

      Islam is a religion of peace, and will remain so until the end of time. Those who use violence and claim it is “Islamic” are not to be called Muslims.

      • umersultan
        February 5, 2011 at 2:00 PM
        “Those who use violence and claim it is “Islamic” are not to be called Muslims.”

        I would disagree with this statement. How can we say they are Not Muslims? A Muslim is a person who believes in the message revealed to Muhammad, peace be upon him. So unless one crosses the boundary laid down in Islam, one cannot be labelled “Not Muslim!” This is a very serious thing.

        They are Muslims, but they are misguided! Thats what we should say!

    6. Paul Marcel-Rene
      February 6, 2011 at 3:39 AM
      No, there is nothing what so ever in the Bible that permits Terrorists to bomb Abortion clinics not the wicked KKK to kill anyone or burn a church.

      As for The Crusades:

      Muslims love talking about the Crusades… and Christians love apologizing for them. To hear both parties tell the story, one would believe that Muslims were just peacefully minding their own business in lands that were legitimately Muslim when Christian armies decided to wage holy war and “kill millions.”

      The Truth:

      Every part of this myth is a lie. By the rules that Muslims claim for themselves, the Crusades were perfectly justified, and the excesses (though beneath Christian standards) pale in comparison with the historical treatment of conquered populations at the hands of Muslims.

      Here are some quick facts…

      The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

      By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.

      Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad’s death. As early as 652, Muhammad’s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death. In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.

      In 1095, Byzantine Emperor, Alexius I Comneus began begging the pope in Rome for help in turning back the Muslim armies which were overrunning what is now Turkey, grabbing property as they went and turning churches into mosques. Several hundred thousand Christians had been killed in Anatolia alone in the decades following 1050 by Seljuk invaders interested in ‘converting’ the survivors to Islam.

      Not only were Christians losing their lives in their own lands to the Muslim advance but pilgrims to the Holy Land from other parts of Europe were being harassed, kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam and occasionally murdered. (Compare this to Islam’s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad’s time).

      The Crusaders only invaded lands that were Christian. They did not attack Saudi Arabia (other than a half-hearted expedition by a minor figure) or sack Mecca as the Muslims had done (and continued doing) to Italy and Constantinople. Their primary goal was the recapture of Jerusalem and the security of safe passage for pilgrims. The toppling of the Muslim empire was not on the agenda.

      The period of Crusader “occupation” (of its own former land) was stretched over less than two centuries. (The Arab occupation is in its 1,380th year).

      Despite popular depiction, the Crusades were not a titanic battle between Christianity and Islam. Although originally dispatched by papal decree, the “occupiers” quickly became part of the political and economic fabric of the Middle East without much regard for religious differences. Their arrival was largely accepted by the local population as simply another change in authority. Muslim radicals even lamented the fact that many of their co-religionists preferred to live under Frankish (Christian) rule than migrate to Muslim lands.

      The Islamic world was split into warring factions, many of which allied themselves with the Frankish princes against each other at one time or another. This even included Saladin, the Kurdish warrior who is credited with eventually ousting the “Crusaders.” Contrary to recent propaganda, however, Saladin had little interest in holy war until a rogue Frankish prince began disrupting his trade routes. Both before and after the taking of Jerusalem, his armies spent far more time and resources battling fellow Muslims.

      For its part, the Byzantine (Eastern Christian) Empire preferred to have little to do with the Crusaders and went so far as to sign treaties with their rivals.

      Another misconception is that the Crusader era was a time of constant war. In fact, very little of this overall period included significant hostilities. In response to Muslim expansion or aggression, there were only about 20 years of actual military campaigning, much of which was spent on organization and travel. (They were from 1098-1099, 1146-1148, 1188-1192, 1201-1204, 1218-1221, 1228-1229, and 1248-1250). By comparison, the Muslim Jihad against the island of Sicily alone lasted 75 grinding years.

      Unlike Jihad, the Crusades were never justified on the basis of New Testament teachings. This is why they are an anomaly, the brief interruption of centuries of relentless Jihad against Christianity that began long before the Crusades and continued well after they were over.

      The greatest crime of the Crusaders was the sacking of Jerusalem, in which 30,000 people were said to have been massacred. This number is dwarfed by the number of Jihad victims, from India to Constantinople, Africa and Narbonne, but Muslims have never apologized for their crimes and never will.

      What is called ‘sin and excess’ by other religions, is what Islam refers to as the will of Allah.

      Yes, I am aware of the Inquisition and Maimonide. And, yes there were errors made. Again, these were done in direct opposition to the Bible. There is no support for the excesses of the Inquisition in the Bible.

      As for colonialist taking Christian missionaries with them, that makes perfect sense. The great commission is for all Christians to teach the truth to all who do not know it, about the nature of the One True God and His Son Jesus Christ. It is what I am doing this exact moment and what every true Christian should be doing, sharing the news of salvation and eternal life with all who do not know these truths.

      We do agree on correcting Zayn regarding that he/she who identifies themself as Muslim are Muslim. And I most definately agree that those practicing jihad/stealth or silent jihad or any violence are misguided, BUT they are not misunderstanding Islam, the Qu’ran or the sayings and behaviors of Mohammad.

      • umersultan
        February 6, 2011 at 6:49 PM
        If Crusaders were following the Bible or were so justifies then why they sacked Constantinople and put a whore on the pulpit of the Orthodox Church.

        You should read: “Two Faiths One Banner” by Ian Almond the Holy War of Catholicism will get into perspective.

        So you say that KKK was not following Bible and the Inquisition was not following Bible, but thats interesting because they were citing Biblical verses as well, or other time its interpretation. So does those Evangelical Terrorist do when bombing Abortion clinics.

        Any way, you should study more into the verses that “preach violence” in the Holy Quran, when they were revealed & what occasion were they revealed and what Authentic Islamic Scholars say about these verses.

        Regarding Extremism and Terrorism read this: “Islamic Awakening between Rejection and Extremism” by Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Online read here: http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/Q_RE/index.htm

    7. MahaMuslimah
      March 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM
      @Paul Marcel-Rene:

      Learn your facts from a law professor (working at Boston College Law School and at Harvard) who teaches American law AND Islamic law.
      Lay off the Fox news.
      http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/rabb_interview.html

      • Paul Marcel-Rene
        April 13, 2011 at 7:04 AM
        I would be willing to teach this professor so that he can correctly teach his students. Just because his positions are great, does not mean he is correct. When I attended college, many professors had serious errors in subjects being taught. When I taught college classes, the correct information was taught.

        As for Fox News, I’m much more likely to be watching Al-Jazzeria, than Fox. Of course, I have a correct understanding to filter the propaganda of any “news” from any source. Stealth Jihad fails to deceive some of us.

        • MahaMuslimah
          April 13, 2011 at 10:58 AM
          @Paul Marcel-Rene. The Link I sent to you is of a female professor. Shows how well you read…
    8. Paul Marcel-Rene
      April 13, 2011 at 12:21 PM
      Yes, it was. I mistyped on my smart phone. The point is the same regardless of the gender. But, thank you for pointing out the error. I also spelled Al-Jazeera, due to my phone’s auto correct feature. You didn’t catch that error.
      • MahaMuslimah
        April 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM
        @Paul,

        You cannot ignore the fact that many Muslims do not feel compelled into these practices you have stated (none of which have foundation in Quran or Sunnah, but rather twisted cultural practices!). Many Muslims who are American do not find contradiction in these two identities. You cannot just ignore reality. I will share with you my own blog where I, a practicing AMERICAN MUSLIM, have found nothing but an amazing balance between my faith and nationality:http://mahamuslimah.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/american-first-muslim-first-no-contradiction/

        Paul, you have made many statements that have no basis in Islamic teaching (i.e. genital mutilations (!?), women traveling without permission, requirement of violent jihad, not giving zakaat to non-Muslims (!?), forbidding Arab women to marry non-Arabs (!?), forced marriages, rape of slaves, and so on). These are cultural practices, and have NO foundation in Quranic teaching. Many of these conditions were already present in the historical context of the prophet. I am sure you know that Islam did NOT invent, implement nor encourage slavery! The same goes for polygamy! Islam did not invent, implement nor encourage polygamy! In fact, it made a limit to the polygamous abuse AND is the only religion that says ‘only have one spouse if you cannot be fair” and it goes on to state “no, you can never be fair”. In fact, there is much evidence in Quran that expresses Allah’s disgust with oppression and the enslavement of other human beings–Muslim or non; enslaved or free.

        As a convert who has learned Islam from its sources (Quran and Sunnah), I am appalled and disgusted that some so-called “Islamic nations” oppress their people in the ways they do.

        Shariah, for regular-ol’ Muslims (not those with agendas), means “the way” and includes “the ways” in which we perform ablution, pray, fast, pay zakaat. It has more to do with lifestyle than some kind of doctrine that governs the land. I do not even find basis in Quran that encourages Muslims to “dominate” the world. We are encouraged to teach others about Islam, but definitely not force anyone! Anything done under compulsion–by force–does not even count as legitimate (this includes forced conversion, forced marriage, etc) In Quran, there is encouragement to live in a society peacefully with others of diverse beliefs. Read Surah al-kafirun (“Say to those who reject faith, I do not worship what you worship. You do not worship what I worship. And I shall not worship what you worship and you shall not worship what I worship. Unto you is your religion, Unto me is my religion”). This surah recognizes religious diversity and a requirement for Muslims to deal in the BEST manner with others despite their beliefs!

        Even you mentioned that:
        “Shariah is not a religion. It was created centuries after the written Koran, Islam’s holy book. Just because a person is Muslim and therefore follows the Islamic faith, it does not necessarily mean he or she supports or chooses to live under Shariah. Many Muslims are brutally oppressed under Shariah-Islamic Law.”

        Shariah–as a legal system–is an invention to Islam. And I would agree, some Muslims AND non-Muslims are brutally oppressed under so called “Islamic law”. And this is disgusting to me and other Muslims who truly believe in the mercy of God, read Quran, practice Islam. In no way is oppression and hatred toward any individual OK (whether Muslim or non-Muslim)!

        It doesn’t even bother me that you say the things you have said. Mainly because I have studied Quran and know there is no foundation nor tolerance for this within the religion. And I am SURE you have not taken time to read Quran from cover to cover. Have you read sunnah (the life of the prophet? How about his teachings? And the ways in which he spoke to and treated his wives? I am sure you have not sat down to talk to a brother or sister and ASK them how THEY feel about these atrocities going on around the world! I have never met a Muslim who has even sympathized with the abuse of these screwed up governments! I am not talking about American Muslims, American converts! I am talking about individuals from the Middle East who recognize the corruption in their government. Corruption of power and religion, Paul.

        I honestly, honestly encourage you to read Quran. More so, I encourage you to go to library and find unbiased sources regarding the prophet’s life.

    9. Paul Marcel-Rene
      April 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM
      My friend, I have read the Qu’ran. I have spoken with many Muslims from around the world, both converts and “born” Muslim. I have read the life of Mohammad and all that he spoke. I have studied extensively the historical context of the Qu’ran and the culture to which Islam began. Perhaps your intentions are pure, but this does not change the facts. You still have much to learn about Islam before you will truly understand its true nature and the true theology behind it. May this process of discovering the truth be short and painless.
      • MahaMuslimah
        April 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM
        With your knowledge of “truth”, how is it that you manage to have so many unfounded statement in your posts? Do not patronize me.
      • umersultan
        April 14, 2011 at 8:32 AM
        Paul, you haven’t cited a single source of your claims, and I think that sums up how much well informed you are about Islam and Muslims.

        You should be bold enough to cite the books and authors from whom you have gained these very wonderful insight of Islam that has no bases in the Quran or the Sunnah of the Prophet, peace be upon him.

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    Outraged At Totally Wrong Headed Response to Israel standing up to the stupidity of Obama

    Good For Israel! This article is totally bias toward the non-exist palestinian people (small p). These people are displaced Jodians, Syrians, Lebanese and Egyptians that disowned them and cast them aside. Israel is the ONLY stable democratic AND free country in the middle east. We, as a (former) beacon of freedom and democracy should be not only backing the only legal country in the former Palestine Mandate, but pushing with as much effort as we put into WWII to guarantee they are NOT pressured into giving up a single acre of land and that ALL OF Jerusalem is part of Israel. There are NO illegal settlements. Israel has just as much right to these lands without a nation as anyone. If it wasn’t for the Mohammad approved and sanctioned “kill all Jews and Christians who will not submit to subjegation” in the Qu’ran and Hadith and Sunnah of Islam, Israel would be the model ALL middle east nations should emulate as a fair and just government and nation.

    IN RESPONSE TO THIS:

    Israel Bitch-Slaps Obama– Again– and Gets a $3,000,000,000 Handout from America as “Punishment”
    20th May 2011 · 0 Comments

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    ShareOnce again, the Israeli government led by Benjamin Netanyahu has bitch-slapped the Obama administration upside the head with impeccably humiliating timing, and once again America will respond by gifting billions of dollars in aid to Israel.

    This time, it was more or less over a speech.

    There was much fault to find in President Obama’s address on the Middle East yesterday. It was positively oozing with hypocrisy on democracy and America’s role in regional tyranny. But he struck a remarkably balanced tone on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, even going so far as to become the first sitting President to endorse a two-state solution based on Israel’s 1967 borders.

    It was precisely this even-handedness, even if it was only in a speech (and anyone on the “Arab Street” can tell you that they’ve heard it all before), that caused Netanyahu to blow his yarmulke. A few highlights:

    “For decades, the conflict between Israelis and Arabs has cast a shadow over the region. For Israelis, it has meant living with the fear that their children could get blown up on a bus or by rockets fired at their homes, as well as the pain of knowing that other children in the region are taught to hate them. For Palestinians, it has meant suffering the humiliation of occupation, and never living in a nation of their own.”

    “Because of our friendship [with Israel], it is important that we tell the truth: the status quo is unsustainable, and Israel too must act boldly to advance a lasting peace.”

    “The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.”

    “A lasting peace will involve two states for two peoples. Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people; each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace… The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.”

    Obama also spoke of the need for a “full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces” from occupied Palestinian territories and decried the continued (and illegal) construction of Israeli settlements on Palestinian land.

    That last one got Netanyahu madder than dispossessed Palestinian refugee, and he immediately turned to bite the hand that feeds him to the tune of $3,000,000,000 US taxpayer dollars a year. With impeccably dickish timing– right after Obama’s speech and right before he boarded a plane to Washington to meet with the American President in the White House– Netanyahu flipped Obama a huge middle finger in the form of an announcement that his government was approving the construction of an additional 1,500 illegal settler homes in occupied East Jerusalem.

    According to Agence France-Presse, the Israeli interior ministry has given its final approval for the building of 900 settler homes in Har Homa and another 620 in Pisgat Zeev. “I hope that the message that goes through the approval of 1,500 units of building in Jerusalem sends a clear message to the American administration,” Israeli lawmaker Arieh Eldad huffed with cocksure audacity. Indeed, “Netanyahu’s decision to discuss Har Homa and Pisgat Zeev today is a clear message to the Americans about Israel’s real policy which refuses to even discuss (sharing) Jerusalem,” Hagit Ofran of Peace Now’s Settlement Watch unit told AFP.

    Sadly, this isn’t the first time that the Netanyahu regime has told Israel’s most indispensable benefactor to go fuck themselves in so many words. Last year, Bibi chose the moment when Vice President Joe Biden was visiting Israel, pledging Obama’s “absolute, total, unvarnished commitment to Israel’s security,” to announce that his government was authorizing the construction of 1,600 new illegal settlement homes on occupied Palestinian land. And how did the country that Israel cannot survive without punish its number one welfare case? By Biden showing up an hour and a half late for dinner with Bibi. And by sending $2,750,000,000 worth of some of the most advanced fighter jets America has ever built to Israel. For free.

    So, what about this latest Israeli slap to America’s face? How will we put those pesky, disobedient Zionists in their place? By handing out billions more in free money, of course. The Obama administration has pledged $30,000,000,000 in guaranteed aid to Israel, and nothing so small as being utterly humiliated by a nation whose actions have been roundly condemned literally hundreds of times by the United Nations is going to threaten that unending flow of cash.

    Somebody needs to put Israel in its place. But the only country that has a chance of doing that is too busy kissing stinking Zionist ass. It is utterly incomprehensible how successive governments of what is arguably the most powerful nation that has ever existed have been reduced to spinelessly slavish cash machines for a quasi-pariah strip of desert smaller than New Jersey. If any other country treated America as flippantly as Israel so often does, it would find itself on our shit list, at the very least, or at most, the target of isolation, sanctions or even talk of regime change.

    But Israel isn’t “any other country.” It, like the United States, is self-absorbed with heady notions of divinely sanctioned exceptionalism, and armed with the arrogance and the heavy weaponry to impose that dangerously delusional vision upon the hapless nations around it, the US and Israel will continue to stand virtually alone in a world that increasingly views them both as rogue states.

    AT: http://morallowground.com/2011/05/20/israel-bitch-slaps-obama-again-and-gets-a-3000000000-handout-from-america-as-punishment

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    Rosemarie McGuire
    Yes Arab nations treated Palestinian’s with loathing for many decades. Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia could have all offered them homeland & aide but never did until they realized they could be exploited against Israel internally. Duped …to send they’re children to death as suicide bomber thay idolize. When too old & fragile to care for self those icons of so called dead hero’s won’t be there for help they need. Ironically the nomadic Pal.s never had nor desired a homeland untl Israel drained swamp lands & pastures they ruined overgrazing then moving on to overgraze again elsewhere. Nothing, no one prevented them from building a nation before Israel returned to her God given land. A mere 60 some yrs. ago is but a speck of time. Now that Israel created thriving land they want to steal but they never attempted to create for themselves!

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